Anyone been taken advantage of?

topic posted Tue, February 28, 2006 - 1:31 PM by  Cherry
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I'm just curious...I have a few times and so have a few other woofers I've met. Mostly in France..
I emailed the wwoof organizer to see if there is a chat list on the site for people to exchange experiences but she wrote back and didn't seem to keen on the idea. I kind of got the 'customer is always right' vibe from the message. It's a bit frustrating for me as one woman I wwoofed for was just going to leave my passport, back card and all of my belongings out on the street in France when I was away on my day off because I didn't want to work 50 hours a week babysitting in a tiny apartment in a city (she told me I would be helping her on her farmhouse)! WTF? I wish there was a place (on the site) where we could tell about the wonderful places we've worked as well. I guess this is the best we have for now but it doesn't seem like people check this tribe much? Any thoughts?
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Cherry
Portland
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  • Re: Anyone been taken advantage of?

    Sat, March 11, 2006 - 12:17 PM
    That's why I think that a forum like this is so cool. I mean, if you want to leave a WWOOF farm you always can, but sometimes the travel costs or last minute hostel arrangements can be tricky. That said don't go to Raw Treat in Costa Rica. The farmer there was chronically depressed about financial problems, there was nothing to eat, and he kept trying to get money out of me.
    • ha ha suckers...

      Tue, June 13, 2006 - 3:10 AM
      There always seemd to be the temptation with wwoofer farms to give the shitiest, dirtiest, hardest most dangerous job to wwoofers... and there wont be any compensation if you get injured.

      In all my time there has been only 2 farms and I have heard of another 1 where people were treated kindly fairly with concern or care...

      Wwoofer = slave

      Its peoney! Come on people wake-up

      Sorry to say that most of my farms were like that...
      The one I did like... it was like being introduced to his hobby, he didnt really expect to make a profit from it, he just wanted somone around to take an interest in it... Like friends...

      L
      • Re: ha ha suckers...

        Tue, June 13, 2006 - 9:51 AM
        I expect there's a diversity.....

        the farm i was recently at was fairly chill. The owner a nice man. Altho we lived simply (me and a companion) it is almost like a light-working retreat in nature. Being in pender Harbor is beautiful, with the ocean around every bend and all the animals.

        It is volunteer work apart from food and board but it feels good to help someone become more self-sustainable and learn some things about a farm for myself at a relaxed pace.

        I don't agree wwoofer = slave... closer would be wwoofer = angel...

        especially since it's voluntary

        but my experience is limited and i don't expect all the locations are as cool as Beaver Island, Sunshien Coast

        bless up
        ~O~


        • Re: ha ha suckers...

          Mon, July 3, 2006 - 5:24 AM
          I agree. There is quite a diversity. I found in New Zealand, most people only expected 20 hours a week realizing that you are there to see the country and that to work more than that, didn't allow you much time to do that.
          I found in Europe that there were more places just looking for 'cheap' labour and would expect you to work the 'required' 36 hours a week (that's full time people!) while sleeping in non-heated rooms in winter and eating just vegtables.
          A lot of my frustraion is actually with the website itself. I mean, really, 36 hours a week?! That's a full time job for work exchange!
          When hosts would ask me how much I was willing to work, I told them it was dependent on what the exchange was. For instance, if a host could not offer accomodation (i.e., sleeping in my own tent) and the meals were really basic to where I would need to buy food to suppliment the diet, there is no way I'm working 36 hours a week. On the other hand, I had one host who put me in a very nice room, was considerate and gave me options for works and the meals were complete and diverse, I had no problems working the 25-30 hours a week that he asked.
          I really wish the wwoofing website would make SUGGESTIONS for a fair work hour week rather than stating it as the 'norm'.
          I also felt when writing the wwoof owner, that she had the 'customer is always right' attitude. Frustrating as in paying my yearly dues, aren't I a 'customer' as well?
          • Re: ha ha suckers...

            Sun, January 25, 2009 - 1:35 PM
            Yes - for $20-30 membership, they should at least have a user-rating system (something like hostels.com has) and/or the ability to flag bad or inactive hosts.
            • suckers no longer...

              Fri, February 20, 2009 - 12:19 PM
              Please forward this message to as many wwoofers as you know.

              I've set up an online map that is publically editable (like wikipedia) for wwoofers to rate their wwoof hosts. New Zealand only at the moment, but anyone can set up a map for another country. Please don't put phone numbers or full addresses of wwoof hosts on to respect privacy. Just farm title and their names.

              maps.google.com/maps/ms

              Link above.
              A handful of farms have been added. Please add a farm you have been to, and then write a comment (do this by clicking "edit" and then add a placemark - blue thing in a circle)
              Thanks

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